Sunday, January 26, 2014

Rolex or Hublot watch?

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Which watch do you think is more class/stylish/expensive and just well better? Which do you prefer and why?


Answer
Some answers here are too subjective and give no reasons for their choices. Let's look at these two brands as objectively as possible by comparing some data about them that I find in my many watch magazines and almanacs. You can then have some basis for forming your own opinion.
HISTORY
Hans Wilsdorf began making watches in 1905. In 1908, he began using the name Rolex on his watches. The derivation of that name is uncertain.
Carlo Crocco founded Hublot in 1980. "Hublot" is French for "porthole" that the bezel resembles with its screws. Jean-Claude Biver who revived Blancpain in 1982 moved to Hublot in 2004 to become CEO.
EMPLOYEES & PRODUCTION
Rolex has over 2000 workers who produce almost 1,000,000 watches each year lately.
Hublot has about 150 workers who make 24,000 watches annually.
COLLECTIONS
Rolex offers mainly "Oyster Perpetual" automatic water-resistant sports watches and some "Cellini" dress watches.
Hublot offers "Classic", "Big Bang" and "King" lines.
MONEY SPENT ON ADS IN THE USA IN 2007
Rolex spent much more than any other company, i.e. $47,100,000. Breitling was a not so close second with $27,070,000. Hublot was 18th with $5,280,000 spent.
BASIC SPORTS WATCHES
$6300Sb, $9950S&Rb Rolex "O.P. Datejust" 4fa
$6900S, $10,900S&R Hublot "Classic Fusion" 4fa
DEEP DIVING WATCHES
$10,650Sb Rolex "O.P. Sea Dweller Deep Sea" 4fa 3900 meter diver
$19,000T Hublot "King Power Diver" 4fa 4000 meter diver
GOLD CHRONOGRAPHS
$27,650R Rolex "O.P. Cosmograph Daytona" 3fa-C (also $34,700Rb)
$27,900R Hublot "Classic Fusion Chrono" 4fa-C
MOST COMPLICATED MODELS
$27,650R Rolex "O.P. Cosmograph Daytona" 3fa-C (listed under Chronographs)
$375,000R&CF Hublot "King Power" 3fm-MR-T-C
SECOND MOST COMPLICATED MODELS
$25,150S&Rb Rolex "O.P. Yacht-Master II" 3fa with yacht regatta countdown
$195,000Z Hublot "King Power" 3fm-T-C
Well, what do you think? I say that Rolex is "hyped". Everyone hears about about it, since it spends far more money on ads than any other brand. It's not the costliest nor the best brand. My Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin dress watches cost over 3.5 times as much as a comparable Rolex, and they're worth it. The production figures show Rolex is mass-produced with each employee making 500 watches per year. Each Hublot employee produces 160 watches per year and thus works 3.125 times as long on each watch. Patek and Vacheron spend even more time on each watch. Rolex is hardly a major brand when it makes no watch more complicated than a chronograph. The most complicated wriswatch of all is Franck Muller's "Aeternitas Mega 4" -GS-MR-T-PC-CR with 1483 parts that costs $2,666,700P in 2012. I have written five editions of a book about "THE COSTLIEST WATCH BRANDS". Rolex places 46th costliest in 2012. It seems that Rolex is vastly over-rated. The top watch aficianados aren't impressed by it. I bought two Rolexes soon after I graduated from college, but now, I wear Jaeger-LeCoultre, Piaget, Cartier, IWC, Patek and Vacheron more often.
EDIT: Hasan is wrong to say Rolex is the best watch. It's good but not great. I own two Rolexes, but some of my other watches I've listed are better by far. A Jeager-LeCoultre "Master" sports watch is severely tested for 1000 hours while 1.4 Rolexes are made each day. Rolex is what I consider a bottom line Luxury Brand, since it's so much cheaper than the costliest brands. Lee Cameron a San Francisco watch repairman I know well likes Omega better than Rolex. Repairman Rolf Klotz from Germany also likes Omega very well.

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Mr. Luxury


Okay, so I'm 15, and a guy. I'm not gay, I just like to shop a lot. I have total about 46 shirts, and 21 pairs of pants (this includes jeans, pants, khaki's, etc). I also can't help myself when it comes to brands. I have brands such as Ralph Lauren, Guess, Gucci, Calvin Klein, Brooks Brothers, JoS. A. Bank, and more. But I don't pay full price for all these. I purchase some of the more expensive clothing such as Gucci and Ralph Lauren used on eBay. The good thing about this is that most kids in my school don't have access or a paren't who knows how to use eBay, so i'm at an advantage when it comes to this. I've saved hundreds of dollars! I only paid $60 for the Gucci shirt! That shirt new was a $400 shirt!. And by some miracle, I have gotten all my Ralph Lauren shirts for around $20-$30 used! My JoS. A. Bank I purchased at Goodwill for $2.99, along with my Calvin Klein, my L.L. Bean, and my Brooks Brothers. The JoS. A. Bank shirt I got was new $119.99! The Calvin Klein new was about $50, and my Calvin Klein Jacket new was about $100! My brooks brothers shirt new was $118.50 when I looked on their website, and the Abercrombie & Fitch shirts I have I paid about $3 a piece for used when new they were $60-$70! Now I also have automatic watches, Seiko watches, etc... I paid about $30 for my used Seiko watch (new was a $250 watch), and bought my Automatic watch on eBay for $30, but not sure how much it was new. BUT I LOVE IT! Now for my shoes, I have 9 pairs, Nike Elite's (which are one of the best shoes Nike has released, costing between $250-$300, which I got on eBay for $50 used! I am even looking at a pair of used Gucci shoes on eBay at the moment.

So even though I am wearing some of the best brands in the school (Gucci, Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Brooks Brothers, JoS. A. Bank, Guess, etc) I have paid about the same as all the other kids in my school. About 99% of the kids in my school wear Aeropostale, and American Eagle. I don't tell them I got all my shirts off eBay, because that wouldn't be smart. I haven't spent a dime more than the other kids at school for clothing... but have the best brands in the school. Some of the brands I wear have even found themselves onto the list of top 10 most expensive brands in the world, such as Gucci, and Guess.

So now to get to the point.... even though I am thrifty when it comes to buying my name and luxury brands, my parent's still fear I have a spending problem. I don't think so... I mean, who wouldn't want brands such as Gucci, Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Brooks Brothers, and more? Plus, for the cost of very cheap brands, I have some of the best brands you can find according to an article I read online. I looked at all my clothing the other day, and added together what I would have spent if I purchased hem new. I would have spent over $5,000 on everything if they were new. But do you know what I spent? Not even 1/5 of that! About $600 total. So yes, I do spend a little more than most people, but for the brands I have, it could have been a lot more.

My mothers birthday was about 4 months ago, and to show her how nice luxury things were since she doesn't have any, I saved for about a year (yes I know I don't have a steady income) to buy her two Gucci watches, which I spent $100 for the pair on. Mind you, these watches new were about $1,000. One model was outdated, but there's one they still sell today. I thought it would show here how nice these things are... but she hasn't even worn them once! I also got my dad a Ralph Lauren Dress shirt (new was about $150), and he's never worn it. My dad sticks to his $5 shirts from Walmart, and my mom sticks to her $12 watches from Walmart. My parents complain about me spending too much... but they can afford it. My mother has an administrative position in the office, and my father is a programmer.

So back onto the subject, do you think I have a spending problem?
Even the organ I am standing next to in this picture I got used for $50

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Answer
I understand that you don't buy clothes for full price, but that is still an exorbitant amount of money that you spend. You must go to a school with really rich kids, because most people I know would probably not spend a hundred dollars on a single piece of clothing. You say that you are being frugal and it's not a problem because you can afford it, but I think that your parents just want the best for you. If you spend a lot of money now, you might not have enough for an emergency in the future. The less you spend now, the more you have later, even if you think that you won't need that much money. Just try to curb your spending a little - save them for special occasions. But if you still feel that you need to continue spending, then do what makes you feel good - as long as the consequences are not bad.




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